'Soccer' vs Football. So TRUE

Cowboy_Bebop · 2012-05-22T04:11:13.998068+00:00

He runs very fast, and dodges people very well. I would like to see him do that while juggling a ball with his feet. :) Heheh.. Seriously though, that first video was great, got me thinking about it.

I disagree that that level of ball control is rare in soccer. While I will agree you don't get a Ronaldo or Pele on every team, the fact is the influence players like that have had on the game means that that kind of skill is becoming more and more common. When you see little kids training for soccer today, they're not just practicing passing and dribbling, more and more of them are sharpening trick shots and feints, because they wanna be the next Ronaldinho or such. I reckon the next generation of soccer players is going to be like watching a completely different sport as a result.

I appreciate you sharing these clips, but I'm sorry to say that the last video competely underwhelmed me. I appreciate that it's impressive to see someone so big running quite fast, but I just saw a fat guy running quickly for a very short distance.

Anyway... This debate has been going on as long as the two codes existed, I'll agree to disagree. :)

Meanwhile, have you checked out Aussie Rules Football? They combine the best elements of both soccer and American Football, imho. Fast paced, like soccer, but more physical contact like American Football. It's actually the perfect middle ground, come to think of it.

iamghostbait · 2012-05-21T11:38:17.247427+00:00

The bit with the phone call in episode one was pretty terrifying. Nothing like that ever happens on "Ghost Adventures". Makes me wonder whether it was staged. But looks legit, at least mildly entertaining. Tighten up the editing a bit, things drag on a little too much. Otherwise this is great, I'll be watching.

Cowboy_Bebop · 2012-05-21T09:16:49.062321+00:00

Soccer to me honestly looks like a bunch of guys kicking a ball back and forth

You should watch this. There are players who take the sport to the level of an artform. What I was pointing out before is that this kind of "grandstanding" in my opinion simply doesn't really happen in American football - there'd be no particular benefit - that's why you even see players who are fat asses, it doesn't really matter so long as they have the bulk and power. To me this is what sets the two apart - soccer has so much more room for agility and finesse. I do like watching American football, but as I said, it's kind of like watching a game of chess played by 300 pound pit bulls. So much stopping and starting and bone-crunching. Meanwhile, in soccer, watching a player like Ronaldinho, or even watching old clips of Pele make you realize how art and skill can be combined to devastating effect - the whole body is used, it can be kind of like watching dancing, imho.

imamidget · 2012-05-21T07:06:52.634847+00:00

Hehe.. Well I was referring to men's magazines. I haven't seen GQ in a while, but it strikes me it caters to a more highbrow, well educated young rich guy. FHM is purely a "Ladd" magazine, like it caters to rich young guys, but it's very lowbrow, fart joke level stuff, plenty of tits and ass, and fashion tips and commercials are delivered to the reader in a not so subtle "just trust us, you're not a fag, wear this and the chicks pants will all fly off and their legs will spread wide open for you" sort of way.

EDIT I just checked out GQ. It's not really that much more highbrow. :P

dyoano · 2012-05-21T00:04:59.361386-07:00

imamidget · 2012-05-21T05:55:02.757975+00:00

Ah... All money, no taste, probably single, probably a player. Not a "GQ" Yuppie, but an "FHM" Yuppie. Close?

imamidget · 2012-05-21T05:53:09.486142+00:00

Yep. As long as you don't mind swimming in a saltwater pool, salt works pretty well. Just think - the Romans didn't have access to Chlorine, and they had to keep their public baths clean somehow. I'm not even sure what they used, but I reckon it's likely it'd be something like salt or lime.

imamidget · 2012-05-20T22:17:20.878909-07:00

Non american here - what's a "baller"?

imamidget · 2012-05-21T05:16:11.032797+00:00

I take your point, but there are other things you an put in a pool other than chlorine to keep it clean. A pool this small would be fine just using pool salt.

ImJulianAssange · 2012-05-21T05:08:28.940323+00:00

While I agree that it was off-topic, it wasn't actually false.

GwsGeorge · 2012-05-20T21:57:46.134044-07:00

Remember that these regulatory bodies are made up of people. Russian people. Crime is endemic, and a natural part of Russian culture. I don't know if it's always been that way - I'd blame decades of Soviet rule, where every man for himself was the only way to survive.

Cowboy_Bebop · 1 day

I think you've pretty much nailed it. Boiling it down to its essence :

America is a very violent culture, hence they enjoy a sport that features gladiatorial specimens who very occasionally engage in brief moments of violent clashing.

The UK, and many other Futebol watching nations, are not as violent, and value dexterity, speed, and skill over brute force, hence are much happier to watch a game that involves less physical contact, and more independent skill on the part of the players (there is a LOT of skill involved in American Football plays, but the coach and strategists decide these beforehand, rather than the players in realtime on the field. There will never be a "Pele" or "Ronaldhino" in American Football because the game simply doesn't benefit from Grandstanding).

Cowboy_Bebop · 1 day

Watching American football, imho, is like watching a very large game of chess. I don't know about you, but watching chess is extremely fucking boring. Soccer, AFL, even Rugby League and Union are FAR more interesting sports because there's a lot more going on, at a much faster pace. Also - the broadcast for an Australian Rules match generally doesn't last around four and a half hours, like American Football games.

I appreciate that's the very reason why a lot of people enjoy American football - it has so much more strategy involved. But to me, it seems like it's become so overstudied that at a professional level, it's just way too much and not enough action. Even American College games are noticably more fun to watch because they haven't got every single player wired into a scientist, feeding them precise orders.

Cowboy_Bebop · 1 day

Fuck off, we're full.

;P

chvz · 1 day

Fred Phelps, is that you?

GwsGeorge · 1 day

Self preservation?? :P

GwsGeorge · 1 day

Given they're usually dumb enough to start them in the first place, no.

neverever_d · 1 day

I don't buy it

neverever_d · 1 day

Obvious scam is obvious....

Doesn't anybody else think this girl talks like google translate? Furhermore, hasn't anybody else noticed she''s clearly glancing down at a script?

God you people are so fucking gullible.

neverever_d · 1 day

But soon I will run out of cash

ZING

sgtBungers · 1 day

I noticed that, but couldn't be bothered doing the EDIT. Thanks..

sgtBungers · 1 day

Exactly

shresthanator · 1 day

WHY? :P

Availability_Issue · 1 day

If you really want to "share" it, you have no right.

Anonymously send the MASTER COPY to the Production company, with a note explaining the situation, and that there are hundreds, possibly thousands of people on the net who would gladly pay money for this. Explain to them that you've already been approached by pirates, so it's inevitable, they might as well be the ones distributing it.

Otherwise, keep it to yourself. There's no in between.

sgtBungers · 1 day

HAH. Interesting the way the brain picks up on these queues even if you're not consciously spotting them. The Commodore should have been a dead giveaway though. Here I was thinking it was the street signs or our great sun. :)

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